in the bush administration, they are pl karl rove, with your experience in the bush administration, they multilevel are playing -- i hate the multilevel chess reference -- c- but he does have other concerns other than just what is but he does have other concerns other than just what is happening in the mueller investigation, with "the new york times" will publish.ewk times" will he just had this meeting with te putin.ting with pu i imagine -- he reference thisis i imagine -- he ref today, karl, they were talking about israel, iran, syria, this today, karl, they were talking abou nuclear nonproliferation,ael, i, nuclear nonproliferation, getting back some semblance of whatever normal relationship with russia is.ack some semblanf whatever normal relationship that does come into play, and obama references, karl, back inn that does come into play, and obama references, karl, back 2014, insulting someone on the n 20 world stage, that doesn't accomplish anything.the world stage, that doesn't accomplish anything. i don't recall george w. bush i don't recall george w. bush insulting putin, whether at the ranch or the clintons when theye were meeting, when hillary was ranch or the clintons when they were meeting, when hilla meeting.as you don't insult people even ifn you know they are trying to mes' around with our system, which ef they always have been trying tos around with our mess around with our system. syh they always have been trying to mess around with our system. >> i agree with you. president trump should not have.