funded by russian business interests and make russia and maybe even putin himself billions of dollars in emergency profits. presumably that's enough money to mean that germany can finally pay all the money into nato dues that it actually owes. >> two world wars and the cold war. >> how can you be together when a country is getting its energy from a person you want protection against or a group you want protection against? >> we stand together in dealing with russia we are stronger. i think what we have seen is -- >> you are making russia richer. >> laura: remember, both russia makes a lot of money off this and german interests make a lot of money off these pipeline projects there. as you can see, the nato chief responded to trump's very specific concerns with a flurry of generalities punctuated by banalities. not very convincing. trump is right.