of fighting these ms-13 gang members. immigrant communities everyday. >> harris: with saw some law enforcement issues. without i.c.e. we saw how difficult it would be to fight that gang. the timeline may change for that, but this is something that has been important to him. you are going to need democrats to do that. does it make sense to take a look at i.c.e.? you might be able to reform some things and make it better and quiet down this conversation about abolishing it. >> absolutely not. what i need, because they need more resources. border agents need more resources. this is what homeland security has been asking for. the democrats have deprived these men and women for their ability to do their work. look, there is no question, harrison, there is a crisis on