messages. to be frank there was that one thing in their utah democrat were going to vote on. when you think that the way to get it done? >> i think were the president was coming from us we couldn't get 60 votes in the senate. why work on this now if you know you can't get a good bill through the senate. i disagree with that. liz: if you can't do it in both houses are not sure how you're going to do it. okay, we just saw casey stegall reporting some pretty gutwrenching images everything about families getting separated in the process they are going through to get reunited. is this how we should be using resources down there on the border? is this an efficient use of resources? >> i do think we have to keep families together. our public wants that. i hear that from our constituents, that they want the rule of law and they don't want to do catch and release. we are releasing families and