domestically. now that may help the steel barons and may help the steel unions, but when that begins to resonate throughout the economy and the consumer does, that help everyone on assembly lines? does that help the united states military buying new tanks and armaments right down through the economic system? >> look at experience in 2002 when george w. bush imposed steel tariffs and completely backfired in a way i think might happen again this time because the higher that steel prices go, that's a main input for manufacturers all across the economy, and there was an article i think in the "wall street journal" the other day about a domestic u.s. producer of lockers for schools and government and offices or whatever, gyms, and that's the main input is steel, so they're really getting hammered. they're a small company trying to survive in a globally