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conservatives have said we can't do that because they will take jobs from able-bodied americans. whatever the truth is, we have a moment in our economy, neil, where we have a job available for ever that wants one. we have 3.8% unemployment. it's going lower. black americans is 5.9%. the lower since 1972. even lower for hispanics. why not consider now and a lot of companies and industries -- >> neil: how would it work? >> you give them a worker visa, a guest visa that doesn't make them citizens, allows them to come in through legal transport areas, not illegally, do the work that is available in hospitality, construction, working in the crabbing industries like in maryland. then they can go home and --

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