as our political asylum process is, it is a legal way to try to get here. why don't we change it to where we give yearly renewable work permits where only the breadwinner will risk their lives to come up here and then we don't have to have all of these people fleeing their source country, honduras is a lawless nation, somalia, latin america, mothers know they will be separated from their child. >> laura: we'll talk to the congressman about that in just a second. we have a situation right now, as it exists, that the president, i think, was trying to deal with. i think in a reasonable way, something is good here. it's either open borders, let people into the country, we know how that works, it encourages more, or it's separating the families, which is a harrowing thing, the images are terrible, nobody likes to see it. so john, i want to go back to you. the president came out today, and the media was blaring, president trump backtracks, reverses course, at the same