white house. if she did that -- the times has said it's going to investigate her work. these are the sorts of things that i believe if they can get to the truth she will not be there much longer. >> martha: i think most reporters out there are like wow. the rest of us are making phone calls and taking notes on our note and it makes it a little bit difficult when you've got people with these kinds of relationships. where are the abe rosenthal as of today? who goes into the newsroom and says you can do whatever you want on your own time but you can't cover that story? >> there has been at the complete collapse of standards in the mainstream media. now it's about hating donald trump. if you hate donald trump, that's enough to get you hired at most of these places. nothing else matters. that is the litmus test unfortunately, and i hope the times will do the right thing here. look carefully at everything she has done and i think they will conclude that she has been honest, she has not been a legitimate reporter, but in fact is sleeping with her main source. >> martha: thank you very much, michael goodwin. always good to see y sir. as torres reported in april of