it out. to the u.s. and it meansne thing something different to north korea. i think they see it more as a freeze. but the one thing you can say is this is so much better where we are now than when t were threatening to blow each other up and as long as they are talking, they are not going to war, and even if this ends up with only a freeze and not complete, other denuclearization, that still better than what we've got now. i think the only danger for the president is that it's going tos regime because that really depends on china and as long as kim jong un is talking to the u.s., it seems like china is already beginning to bac from enforcing sanctions. >> chris: let's pick up on that point, molly, because the president says he's going to keep the sanctions up, he's not going to call it maximum pressure anymore, but he thinks -- he says that's what it's going to be, but he also complained that china is easing up on patrolling and enforcing its border.