sides, the trump investigation and this investigation, to see the facts. we don't need -- that goes beyond just showing it in a classified setting. >> sandra: the american people have heard enough about it. they want answers. >> that's right. i agree with the professor. this is not new for the justice department. this is the way that the doj is hard-wired. it doesn't want to be transparent or share information. they have legitimate reasons for doing that. we're in an unusual situation right now where i think serious questions have been raised about what went on behind the scenes. i'm hopeful that doj and congress will find a way to negotiate and get the answers that we're interested in finding. >> sandra: so the i.g. report, the inspector general report is due out thursday. there's so much anticipation. why is this so crucial and is this going to be a game-changer? >> i think it could be, sandra. look, i.g. reports are normally not at the top of the amazon