look to her comments and reaction to this with -- >> bill: point in question, are you glad they met? >> i'm glad they met but i hate to sound like a broken record but i'm very skeptical we'll see something come to fruition. >> sandra: on that point, listen to the president addressing the skeptics sayg sometimes the deals -- in reference to back to his business days, the deals people are most skeptical of tending to the best ones. >> i've done a lot of deals and sometimes the people you most distrust turn out to be the most honorable ones. we're starting from a big relationship. it's a big day in terms of the world. maybe a lot of people are saying it's historic. even my enemies are calling it historic and the fact is we've done something that's very unique. nobody's met with the family. nobody at a high level.