really following up on what governor richardson says that north korea has already gotten a lot of concessions like very fact that this summit is being held. what do you think kim wants out of this day or so in singapore? >> certainly kim wants the photographs of him shaking hands with president trump because that's legitimization and even more important that means he solidifies role at home. we are going to see pictures of trump and kim for decades in north korea. so, you know, president trump gives up a lot of leverage as soon as he shakes hand with kim and that means if he doesn't get firm commitments to dismantle the weapon's programs, then we are going to working uphill. we could do that because we have a lot of leverage but nonetheless puts kim in the driver's seat at least for a little while. chris: governor richardson, you have been to north korea on 8 times on missions back in 2005, you met with kim's father kim