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computing ideas. you either have borders and laws don' enforce the borders or you if you have borders and have laws to enforce the borders, doesn't mean anyone who wants to come in gets to come in under any circumstances. there are very difficult situations involving people who were fleeing countries and seeking refugee status, doesn't mean it's automatically granted or automatically qualify. we should stop talking about these sort of extreme situations and deal with the really fundlue of our immigration policy, whether meets this country's needs and whether it's satisfying with the american people want. they are not getting a lot of good descriptions of the congressional. >> bret: mara, there's not a sense congress is moving quickly or at all. >> no, but with so confusing if you have jeff sessions saying we are going to separate families from their chiren. it is meant to be a deterrent, like you heard the attorney general say. if you don't want to be

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