country on emp catastrophe. he's the first president to include emp in protecting the electric grid and other critical life sustaining infrastructures from emp. moreover, numerous meetings between the emp commission and the national security council, and talked about making emp part of the plans to modernize the critical infrastructure. so the difference between the trump administration and the obama administration is night and day. mark: did you meet with the obama national security council? >> they never let us. mark: for eight years, you never met? >> no, they never met with the commission and weren't interested in implementing. in fact, there was a general government accountability office report done in 2015 that showed zero of the recommendations were implemented by the obama administration. mark: and it was created by congress, it's a legitimate commission? >> yes, of course, the purpose of commissions like this is to