fissure running through the expectation of what happens when we elevate safety and feelings to a level of primacy. i think it creates a real disconnect that people are struggling to parse. >> tucker: wait a second! are you saying safety isn't the most important thing ever? >> i'm saying that everybody wants to go home safe at the end of the day. safety always would be a delightful bromide a delightful flattude. safety first is the stuff of idiocy. it allows us to begin to believe that someone other than us might care more about our well-being than we do, and the minute we buy into that nonsense, then we embrace the warm grip of complacency. so, no, safety is not the enemy, but if you make it the priority, then let's just wrap ourselves in bubble pack and drive at speeds approaching 5 miles per hour and never assume anything that could ever be confused with risk. >> tucker: that is really