affect their families. this is a horror situation. >> harris: the way that it was described earlier to me, was that this is almost like a marrying of copycats. you have a school shooting, which other children probably get the idea from, well, you know, i can do it too. if that's where they're motivated to do. then you have a situation where not long ago in austin, texas you had a bomber with packages. explosive devices all over the place. >> yes. and this is similar, feeling, that happened in austin. these people are concerned about this. this is why it's planned. when you have some one goes in with a shotgun, you have potentially other devices other locations, this isn't something that you just wake up in the morning and decide to do. this is something that is thought out. this is something that, with the right approach in place, with that mental health component, with the police component, with the school opponent, we can reduce these shootings. certain towns and locations