that's actually more powerful than we are in certain areas and they have the ability to tell us no, no, no. we're seeing that on the backing where trump suddenly tweeted, we need to protect chinese jobs. i don't think anyone voted for trump to protect chinese jobs. a lot of people confused about that. do we need american allies long term. multibased multilateral institutions, many presidents on both sides have felt have served us well are actually constraints on american power. they don't bolster it. steve: i think there's an argtd argument that just disagrees without approach doesn't mean you're leaving and it doesn't mean you're not only putting america first but the stability in the world. you can actually have both, something in the interest of america and good for the world. i think that's what he's doing, don't you think? >> i certainly think that's what he thinks he's doing. there's actually no -- if you