then the average american, we've had flat wages for working class americans for 40 years now. we have 3.9% employment. lowest it's been since 2000 and the wages are still -- steve: a huge point. we can keep the conversation going with the next guest. they brought this argument home as it were. they've been going around the country traveling. interviewing trump voter to find out what brought about the stunning 2016 election upset and they're here next. author of the new book "the great revolt." don't go away.