ways. there have been north korean chemical engineers in syria. don't forget that the israelis bombed a north korean built nuclear reactor in syria years ago. that was also backed by iran. these are linkages here, strategic linkages that ambassador bolton, president trump, secretary mattis understand and know how to go after. that is why you are seeing real results from the trump administration. >> jason: that is what i want to ask gordon about. gordon, you saw what we have been doing in north korea. you are such an expert on that. what is the message of north korea and how should the iranians read what president trump has done in north korea? how is that going to play in iran? >> i'm sure that the iranians understand that president trump is willing to use force. that has unnerved the chinese, the south koreans and the north koreans. anything that unnerves the north koreans is going to unnerve the iranians because as we know the two programs, iran and north korea, are linked. we have iranians technicians