>> i don't know what the truth is. whether there was a payment made. i believe the mayor. i know he wouldn't go on tv and say anything that wasn't true. but in today's world with so many different people saying different things. i'm not sure if we know the truth of it. i myself didn't know anything about it. howie: the "new york times" saying the string of factual misstatements have come back to haunt him. >> i come from wisconsin and i can tell you this is not something are sitting around the dinner table talking about. when you look at what president trump has done and the accomplishments of what he put in place. when he's running in 2020 he'll talk about isis, the supreme