gathering, it just -- it's sows the ground for that kind of thing. >> it's tough. as beverly mentioned, it's on you to make sure that you have good sourcing and double-checking everything out there. you make a great point. it's only going to get tougher, particularly as fake news evolved, notice just the fake stories, but videos, doctored photos. reporters have to be vigilant with their sourcing to make sure everything they put out is 100% legitimate. if they don't, it gives the president ammunition to call out the media. >> jon: yeah, because parentally in this case, beverly, they had their two sources that said yes this happened. they put it out there. start talking about it on msnbc and three sources say no, it's not that way at all. >> they need to make sure their sources are credible. they're talking about a story that is not misspelling somebody's name. we're talking about major news story that is making the public