into bob mueller's thinking. it tells me a couple things. it tells me they already know the answers to many of those questions. they can document the answers. and they want to see if the president will tell the truth. remember, lying, even a white lie a so-called white lie in this environment can trigger an indictment like mike flynn was indicted for lying to them as well as george papadopoulos and swedish lawyer it also tells me that they wan want him to talk as much as did he with the three of you. >> the whole country was rivetted. i was right there. i couldn't even go to my office upstairs because i was so rivetted listening to him. they want him to talk like that. because when he does that he reveals things pieces of the puzzle that he doesn't know the answer yet. steve: would would the trump team leak this to the "new york times"? >> i don't know. brian bine we don't know that though. >> if this is true and i was skeptical last night until i read them again this