and local authorities for the last couple of weeks. rick: is it your sense that these folks have a legitimate reason to come into the u.s., or do you think they are trying to game the system? >> look, it is probably a mixed bag. it is a little concerning there's so many lawyers who are guiding them through the process. obviously you want people to know the process, but at the same time, you don't want them to be coached to say things that aren't true. it is clear from what the secretary says from homeland security that they are very aware of the possibility here of people being coached, and that's why i think she made her statement about, you know, if people are coaching them to say things that are false, they will potentially be prosecuted. rick: we are hearing a lot about this issue this year, but in fact, according to i.c.e. statistics, the number of arrests and returns have actually gone down over the last decade or so, from 2009 to 2016, you see there in 2009, 333,000 arrests. in 2016, 114 -- 200,000 less and the removals, big disparity between 09, almost 400,000 and