without nuclear weapons. they were trying to convince the world that nuclear weapons don't have utility. you need hundreds of them, never be able to compete with the united states. that's not true. any nation that gets just one bomb because of emp, basically becomes a nuclear superpower that could threaten the existence of the united states. it didn't fit into the narrative of a world without nuclear weapons. and didn't fit into the narrative about the iran nuclear deal. if iran had one bomb, okay, you know that would defeat the whole purpose of the iran nuclear deal because they wouldn't need dozens or hundreds of bombs, and the verification provisions which are so poor on the iran nuclear deal would be a mortal threat to the existence of the united states. i and other specialists think iran has already got the bomb and probably had one for some years and the capability to do an emp attack. this is something the obama administration didn't want known. didn't want to talk about. mark: when we come back, i'm going to ask dr. pry, what do we do about this?