by the dnc? >> it's thin as a wafer. bernie sanders suing the dnc for conspiring to give her the lawsui lawsuit -- election. that would be an interesting lawsuit. there is no evidence of collusion. if they want to sue russia that's fine: i would prefer those indictments. if they are upset with wiki-leaks so am i. there is no evidence of collusion. this is either a fund-raising ploy or an effort to get people in sicivil court to depose them. >> bret: were you surprised that rod rosenstein told the president he was not a target of the cohen part of the investigation? >> i would be surprised if anyone used that phraseology.