>> i think that's something we see a lot these days. we read the same information, both sides have a completely different takeaway. republicans are saying, yes, this shows that, you know, comey didn't make accusations of collusion or obstruction, while democrats are saying, no, what was said was the obstruction attempt. you know, we're going to see hoy being used as evidence in his investigation. again, the doj is investigating. we'll see what they come up with. >> about rudy giuliani coming up on to the campaign, what do you make of that? >> i think one big thing is, look, giuliani does have connections with mueller. he's worked with him. it's unclear whether that will actually speed up any of this. one thing on the table is whether mueller will interview the president in a sit-down interview. i think that giuliani could help decide that issue, and actively go between the mueller investigation and the president to try to work out the terms of that interview.