obligation and so i'm wondering, sir, do you know frank gaffney? >> yes, i do. >> you've been on his show dozens of times. >> i was on his show some, yes, senator. >> i have here over 20 times and he has talked about muslims should be -- who abide by their faith should be tried for acts of sedition and should be prosecuted. did you remain silent when you were on his show and did you ever question? i have a lot of his statements here. did you remain silent on -- and my notes at least, you're a friend of his, were you silent in your position of authority against these words that are violative, were you silent with him? >> my recollection is unambiguo unambiguous. >> that's your response, you did not say anything to call out his remarks. what about bridgette gabriel? do you know her? >> i do.