>> chris: even if we end up in a trade war? >> we're not going to end up in a trade war. >> chris: they aren't backing off. >> we haven't even enact ad anything yet. >> chris: i understand. >> let's go easy on the trade war. >> chris: you said the president isn't bluffing. you say tariffs have to be part of the discussion. if they don't back off -- >> we'llhs see. remember this. the u.s. economy's doing very wellis now. by the way, at the top, you learned your lessons well when we d first spoke back in 1981. >> chris: i listened. >> i'm proud of you. having said all that, we're growing at over 3% annual rate for the last three quarters. businessss investment spending, equipment spending is booming. jobs are rising. consumer confidence is high. small business confidence is high. all i'm saying is, forget trade wars. why don't you look at the progress of the american economy. we can take -- >> chris: that's the concern that people have is that this i going to put a brake on that. >> it can't possibly.