brings down its barriers, opens up its markets and stop this technology steal that they're doing from the usa. >> chris: nobody is saying china isn't to blame. the question is the president's he response. here's what you said last month when president trump announced his first round of tariffs. this wasn't an announcement, this was real imposition of tariffs on aluminum and steel. here you are. >> tariff hikes are prosperity killers. they always have been and they always will be. tariffs are taxes. the ones who suffer most are the users. >> chris: so who should we believe? that larry kudlow or this one? >> i thought you might run that. i'm opposed to blanket tariffs. and that's what first started. >> chris: but that's what the president is talking about. >> he's changed his view, even onis the national security acti, we've got a lot of exceptionsch and a lot of carve-outs. >> chris: you're not talking about exceptions ora carve-outs