out. i've been an opponent of china. they're closing markets and investments. they're not playing by the rules of the game. so what are we supposed to do? we have to react. president trump is doing what no president in decades has done. i think he has powerful support around the globe. >> neil: maybe they didn't do it for a reason. they can spread. you say this isn't a blanket tariff. it's grown to include between our two countries over 2,000 items. i worry, isn't that blanket enough for you? isn't that suffocating enough? >> a blanket tariff is a global tariff. we don't have that. the negotiations on nafta are going rather well. >> neil: what does that mean? what are you saying? >> that's about as much as i can say. a lot going on -- >> neil: you want to whisper in