are we in the middle of this investigation? >> the president has not yet sat down with mueller. mueller can't wrap it up until the president sits down with him. that's the catch-22, the legal team thinks the president could make a mistake or say something untrue. >> harris: do think he would do that? >> i have no idea. i have no idea what he did during 2015-2016. mueller cannot reasonably -- let's say mueller was going to come back with a clean bill of health with the president. mueller is going to come back and say hypothetically, he's clean, he did not do anything wrong. he can't ever get there and no one would accept the findings if he did that without interviewing the president. >> harris: i did not mean to put you on the spot but there's a reason i ask you that. we all have been reporting. we see what we see. the president has sat down