of them in the early 40s, and we've had a cadre of people then that went back out into the legal profession, came back in other administrations, and i was very proud of the group they was privileged to work with in the justice department. mark: many of them became professors? >> yes. mark: was this your idea? you wanted to create a future generation of prominent originalists who can help spread the word? >> absolutely. a group of people who can serve in subsequent administrations and went into academic work. steve calabrese. >> the next one runs club for growth. >> right. >> the interesting thing, i was very fortunate that the federalist society, which was a group of lawyers, started as a group of law students dedicated to liberty, dedicated to the constitution, i had all three