that ryan zinke was daring to hire the best people, i thought what is this country coming to, hiring people on the basis of relevant criteria like experience or skill, commitment, i mean, that's just wrong. and i think you would agree with that. >> no. we want people who are qualified and experienced. specialty hymn of ou -- hymn ofr nation's federal agency. we also need to make sure that those agencies reflect the growing diversity of our country. i'm not just talking about racial diversity, i'm talking about gender diversity and ethnic diversity at every turn with this administration we have seen efforts to turn the clock back. we know that diversity is not a priority for this administration whether we are talking about cabinet level appointments or judicial appointments. this administration is one that has not placed a premium on diversity. >> tucker: what do you think of the nfl? do you like the nfl? >> that's a totally different context. >> tucker: oh, it is. but do the same standards