case both in an op-ed in "the new york times," on the basis of merit, he doesn't think privatization is a good idea. if you look to the va, you are looking at people who have done tremendous research on brain injuries, traumatic injuries, they have a chance to offer something that the private sector does not. he said basically putting people in the private sector, the polls don't show the same level there is for the va. he says it won't be better for the quality of our veterans. >> sandra: i want to get your response, jason. listen. >> it would be a mistake to conclude that we do not need the va and that we need to dismantle the va. we have to improve the va while at the same time, working with the private sector in an integrated way to meet the needs of our veterans.