conservatives make a mistake in having constitutional arguments with people who think the constitution is fundamentally illegitimate because it was written by c slave owners in the first place. this has nothing to do with the constitution.y i doubt xavier becerra knows what's in the constitution. he doesn't care. this is all sophism. it's demagoguery designed to take power from people they don't think should have it. voters. don't you think? >> yeah. i think so. and you hit the nail on the head when you said look, it's all about power. that's why the left is apoplectic about the notion that we would be counting citizens again like we have done through most of our country's history. because they see that thisec potentially could threaten the inflated number of congressional seats. again, the trump administrationi can't do it unilaterally.. it would take an act of congress next to say okay, apportionment should not count illegal aliens. but we should have done that decades ago, by the way. >> tucker: that's for sure. that and a lot of other things! mr. kobach, thanks for joining me. t great to see you. >> my pleasure. likewise. >> tucker: this is a fox news alert. the orange county board in orange county, california,