them wander around. >> jesse: i was a free range kid. look how i turned out. i was allowed to walk to school by myself and play in the neighborhood. >> kimberly: may be back in the day. >> greg: it is safer now. >> dana: everyone has a phone now. >> jesse: this this is for uta, not manhattan. you are not letting your kid go down fifth avenue and come back in an hour. there's not a lot going on in utah. >> juan: there is salt lake city. >> jesse: i am saying it is not like midtown. >> kimberly: what age? >> jesse: what age do what? walk to school? 10, 11, 5th grade. there was a person two years ago, a mother or father, who let their son or daughter walk a mile to school.