war ii, we had war bonds, they didn't pay off for 30 years, they didn't buy them to make money, they bought them to contribute. when things aren't working, iacocca said, buy america and to save chrysler. there there comes a point the way we're doing, we're transferring wealth, transferring intellectual property, we're transferring a lot of things to china and it's going to be hard to ever fight this fight in the future. >> we're fighting a 1990's battle with these tariffs. it's one thing to tell me let's go after them on intellectual property and how they steal from us, but another to say let's save the steel industry. >> section 301, intellectual property, you're okay with that. >> are you okay with tariffs and-- >> you're destroying, costing people jobs. >> under democratic and