have political panel to weigh n joining us kevin, vice president at hamburger gibson creative and alexander smith, executive director of america rising. >> great to be with you. >> thanks for having me. eboni: i'm going to lay out a starting point and have you weigh in. it seems that there are two competing narratives as it relates to mccabe's firing, on one hand many are saying that this is political strictly, that this is the president bushing an agenda to discredit the whole fbi and all of those organizations, a bit of a comey grudge, fill in the blanks. other side that mccabe was fired for the fbi's own professional of responsibility and the inspector general's report said that he basically lied under oath, he was a leak and various other reasons are called for firing. alex, i will start with you, can two things be true at the same time, can it be true that the president has a vested interest in seeing mccabe and the mueller investigation be discredited on the front end and could it also