in the air and we think we can shoot from the sea. in cyber can we hit back in another domain? these are the policies that need to be strengthened and clarified to fight in the new domain. >> bill: we're waiting on more details as a result of the action property and interested in property of the designated persons subject to jurisdiction are blocked and u.s. persons are prohibited from engaging in tra transactions with them. i think that's critical because people say you have to go after the money otherwise people do not listen. >> especially with putin and his oligarchs and we have to squeeze them with the money so the sanctions are a good start. >> bill: thank you for your immediate reaction. i know have you not seen the reless. steve mnuchin may speak and we'll bring the viewers live and awaiting president trump to meet with the prime minister of