not interested. >> i think rick perry would really shake the place up. >> adding to shulkin's headaches is a generational divide among veterans groups. those seriously injured from the iraq and afghan wars want the va to move faster towards giving the vets the choice of seeing private doctors. >> this is a generational issue. young veterans don't understand why we need to drive 30 miles to get a perception field when we have a perfectly suitable pharmacy two blocks away. >> traditional veterans groups have come to shulkin's defense and worry that the president's supporters want to privatize the va. >> secretary shulkin has done a good job. legislation passed and programs created. i would be sad to see him go. >> secretary shulkin is an obama holdover. he received 100 votes during his senate confirmation hearing and was once a favorite of the president. now he may be the next out the door. >> bret: jennifer griffin at