that's steel country. the steel users are going to be more dispersed, they don't organize as well and they're not a political force. the test will be whether manufacturers and users of steel can organize and push back against this. i would add one thing to what you were saying to james about the democrats. what donald trump is doing is right out of hillary clinton's play book. my colleague wrote about that in his column this week. gary cohn may be a demeanor who is a free trader but that's the exception in the party, not the rule. so if donald trump is using this, he's basically trying to one-up what the democrats are already saying, which is they also want more protection for their special interests in organized layered. david: but of course what he did is classic trump. he sets the stage way out front and then pulls back along the way during the negotiating process which is why we end up with a set of tariffs that are