>> i certainly didn't, that's for certain. i actually thought there was a better chance that we would be at nuclear war with north koreae than there would be peace talks. but there is something we are missing,re tucker. there'se a little bit of contex. south korean press, about two weeks ago, came out with some reports that were fascinating. they actually speculated that north korea was actually on the edge of financial bankruptcy. by october, their foreign exchange reserves are probably going to be exhausted, and their dollar reserves are going to be exhausted. so that means north korea is essentially bankrupt. you can't build a loft of nuclear weapons and a lot of missiles when you have no moneyt to do it, to pay all the different spies and people to bring those materials back. you can't also feed your people that way. so i do think the north koreans might be trying to buy some time here, but i also think that kim jong un's newfound pragmatism, there might be a bigger reason for it. >> tucker: so what do you make of this?s? kim pledged that north korea will refrain from any further nuclear or missile tests. >> as long as we are talking, that is the other caveat to that so i guess as long as both sides are negotiating and trying to figure something out, that then they won't test.