>> as attorneys we're always concerned about an allegation of witness tampering. that's something that you have to be cautious about. when you're the president of the united states, you have to have daily interactions with your staff. you will be talking to people who brought in to peek. he asked priebus that he was treated nicely. they didn't go into the substance. they didn't go into details about what investigators asked him. all that is perfectly appropriate and common. it's an exchange of please saturdayry. -- pleasantry. >> jon: it's not illegal for someone who is the topic of an investigation, to find out what witnesses have said. >> that is not illegal. you're right. great point. that's not against the law. that's not what the president did. according to all the sources and even the "new york times" and everyone else, he didn't come close to the legal line here. they're bating a drum over really nothing. i'm on the judiciary committee.