approach and deregulation and corporate tax reform and individual tax cuts and gary cohn was a huge part of that and now he says if you're going to move in this protectionist direction i'm not the right person and it's a big shift in the trump administration. >> bill: do you have a sense how this converts to votes? perhaps next tuesday in pennsylvania we had a special election and steel country and southwestern p.a. do you get a sense what could develop from this i did see some polling that suggested the majority of americans are in favor of tariffs even as they understand them to be a tax on american people so it's a more complicated issue. the larger issue of what our economy is like and whether we have good factory jobs and steel to help with national security, i think is on voters' minds. >> bill: great to see you in person. mollie hemmingway. back to sandra.