president goes through with this, it will kill american jobs. that is what every trade were ultimately does. >> you are putting all this stuff out. here's the reality. in 2016, the president ran against other republicans. all of them were opposed to his trade policies. they were all "free traders" who don't care about the american manufacturing worker. the president stood up for them, he ran on left, he got elected on it. there is no surprise that the president wants to impose a modest tariffs on a steel and aluminum to protect the industry. so this is what the debate needs to be. all i ask is that it be done responsibly. that we have this debate, we don't go around with their hair on fire, think of the sky is falling. >> sandra: is at gary cohen's future in jeopardy because of this? >> i was with gary as a meeting. hang on. i was in a meeting with the present yesterday. he was in great spirits, working