generically defined can help you have a better family, better marriage, things along those lines, billy graham never did that. he he used the technology but he kept the old mess average he wa. -- message. he talked about the existence of god but of sin, day of judgment, the need to come to god through christ and blood atonement. so i think that was part of it is that people knew when they were listening to billy graham that he wasn't trying to sell people anything. and that was especially important when you see all of the major evangelists across the 20th century who fell due to sexual scandal or financial scandal. billy graham was above reproach, unimpeachable personal integrity. that a was part of his appeal. >> paul: there was criticism in the obituaries that maybe he did sometimes get a little too close to president as was the case