particularly the banks, 12 chinese banks to the white house saying that they thought there was evidence there to identify them as money laundering concern or impose fines and there was no action yet. leland: the north koreans and the chinese both know about the banks, conceivably the russians know about them as well, what do they make about the united states not applying maximum pressure? >> it's a puzzle, really, you -- leland: that's weakness, doesn't it? >> right, these are entities that are violating u.s. laws which are designed to protect the u.s. financial system. leland: real quickly, we are hearing now about the stop and search operation of north korean ships on the high seas that are potentially violating sanctions, you start talking about that, if they don't stop to be search they run the block aid or you have a war on your hands. >> right, u.s. officials have said that they've had great compliance with other countries who, you know, will accept an inspection but we don't have