from doing it because they were able to band together in same we are going to put france first. that's what ended up happening. the media has some complicity unwitting possibly. in sowing the chaos. i would like your theory. >> greg: juan, you are slightly older than me. do you remember how conservatives and the '70s were marked about a russian under every bed. it was considered hysteria. fundamentally we were right all along about the russian influence. at least on campuses and in these antiwar movements. correct? >> juan: i don't remember it that way. reading back, what you cited, joe mccarthy very real and traumatizing for the american body politic in the '50s that some would be identifying, blacklisting people, labeling