page, hillary for prison. and then it was trump is not my president rally. i went there! i went outside of that. it was right outside of trump tower. you know activists, the greenwich village type. they were chanting. it would have been unbelievable. you could have won me over if i knew then that this was apparently sponsored according to the indictment, by the russians. how can he saw americanized math does it surprise you at all? is this right up their alley? >> yeah, i'm sorry to say the russians are failures on a lot of things. you know, their courage is their business. their business is corruption. when it comes espionage they really good in their ability to understanding us. they have an exceptional number of intelligence serving the country collecting on what makes us tick as people. they know what divides us. and really that was the key point from the indictment.