chris, you knowy help but get a small kick out of the fact that apparently they wanted bernie to win the nomination. they were no match for the dnc on that though. >> that's right. >> martha: your thoughts. >> very good. this is serious and it's serious that we are coming to terms with the fact that the russians played us for a bunch of zaps. and there were americans who willingly went along. you remember the protest march to trump tower. >> martha: oh, yeah. >> the day after the election and the fake black lives matter groups and all of this stuff pinning american against american to turn politics into a vessel of hate. we do a bad enough job with it ourselves. the fact that they played us for suckers should make us ahmad and should make us vigilant and should unite us on that point. >> martha: austan, i remember the moment really throughout the whole campaign everybody thought that mostly cloudy waste going to win. president obama said, look, there is no reason to think that there is any sort of playing around with ballots or anything like that.